Trial & Error
Criminal defense attorney Dana McLendon III and neuropsychologist Dr. Katie Spirko examine the tragic true story of the abduction and murder of Holly Bobo.
Criminal defense attorney Dana McLendon III and neuropsychologist Dr. Katie Spirko examine the tragic true story of the abduction and murder of Holly Bobo.
Episodes
Aug 8, 2026
Episode 14: The Tower Over the Grave
Aug 8, 2026
Aug 8, 2026
45 min
š SUPPORT THIS WORK A supporter has set up a fund for Dr. Spirko's legal defense ā and beyond that, to seed a community legal defense fund for residents of Tennessee's 24th Judicial District. Every dollar goes first to legal costs; anything beyond goes to the community fund. Donations can be 100% anonymous. Donate or share (sharing helps as much as giving): https://gofund.me/ce4fbab2a Forget the five minutes the State used. This is the rest of the spreadsheet. For fifteen years, the Holly Bobo case has been argued on a fraction of the phone record ā one carrier out of four, five minutes out of 88,000 rows. Tonight I put every alibi in Holly's inner circle up against the full record, under four rules that don't bend: objective records over recollection, voice calls over texts, artifacts thrown out ā and the same rules that condemn a row have to be the rules that clear one. Then I show you what nobody has ever integrated before: all four carriers' tower data from the morning of April 13, 2011 ā more than 100,000 rows ā merged into a single log for the first time. Including the one tower this case physically went to, and the record everyone was reading barely reached. And at the end of it, a name. A name I found backwards, starting from nothing but a phone number behaving strangely on a tower in Holladay during the twenty-three minutes Holly's phone went dark one corridor away. A name that appears nowhere in 2,491 investigative reports. Nowhere in the witness list. Nowhere in the file at all. Who is Derrick Hall? If you know him ā if you can hand me the boring explanation, the work order, the reason to be standing on that ground at nine o'clock on a Wednesday morning ā I want it, and I will air it: TrialAndErrorPodcast@protonmail.com PLEASE READ: No one named in this episode has been charged with anything related to Holly Bobo's disappearance, and nothing in this episode is proof that anyone named harmed her. Every person is identified only as the subscriber associated with a cellular account; every location claim is a phone on a tower sector ā never a person at a scene. A phone record can tell you where a phone was. It cannot tell you who was holding it, or why. Please do not contact, harass, or accuse anyone. If you have information, send it to the email above or to law enforcement.
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Aug 8, 2026
45 min
Aug 8, 2026
Episode 15: The Most Dangerous Place
Aug 8, 2026
Aug 8, 2026
1 hr 11 min
Trial & Error ā Episode 15: The Most Dangerous Place
A verdict is a powerful thing to argue with. Before he was the State's witness, Jason Kilzer was Dylan Adams's alibi. In this episode, we go through the record: the years of denials, the federal gun charge that put him in a cell beside Dylan, the recorded warnings he gave before he flipped ā and how his death in 2025, days before a hearing, left questions no one has answered. Forensic neuropsychologist Dr. Katie Spirko examines the case files, the interrogations, and the evidence the jury never saw. In this episode, she meets with Sheila Kilzer, surviving mother of Jason Kilzer, who died 08/08/2025 in an officer-involved shooting. in Henderson County, TN, while she stood watching in horror. Dr. Spirko also speaks with an inmate who shared the pod with Jason Kilzer and Dylan Adams.
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Aug 8, 2026
1 hr 11 min






